Comments on: PowerShell for Microsoft SharePoint 2010 Administrators http://mysharepointofview.com/2010/02/powershell-for-microsoft-sharepoint-2010-administrators/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=powershell-for-microsoft-sharepoint-2010-administrators Thoughs from the field in SharePoint land Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:20:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Keith Caravelli http://mysharepointofview.com/2010/02/powershell-for-microsoft-sharepoint-2010-administrators/#comment-391 Keith Caravelli Thu, 29 Apr 2010 05:47:03 +0000 http://mysharepointofview.com/?p=773#comment-391 This looks like an exciting undertaking. One of my primary roles at Microsoft is working on the automated scripting of SharePoint 2010 using PowerShell. I work on contract in the group that supports custom portals and farms like MSW and ITWeb and others. PowerShell is proving to be an enormously powerful tool. Our senior developer lead has put a great deal of work into this and has made it possible for us to install a complete SharePoint 2010 installation with maybe 15 minutes of actual hands on interaction with the scripts. I hope you emphasize in your book how to learn and work with the SharePoint object models in a way that is practical for a non-programmer. I think many folks are going to be intimidated by PowerShell because so many books focus on deep programming technique and not enough on the practical quick scripts that comprise most of what is done. You certainly need to know the basic of scripting but many people will get a lot out of working with PowerShell with SharePoint if they just focus on simple quick scripts that get stuff done quickly. And ramp up over time into a deeper skillset involving more extensive scripting using .NET objects and WMI to achive what they want. There is a huge difference between learning basci scripting skills rooted in the fundamentals of programming versus learning development skills which are used for software projects. That is a whole different programming skillset. Learning powershell in my opiion is something that is a skillset which is absolutely mandotory for today's admins. This is not typically an endeavor that is designed to end up with a page after page of deep code. These are scripts and they speak directly to WMI objects for server work and the SharePoint Object model for SharePoint specific work. Also the Client Object model which is new to 2010 allows us to work on scripts on our local PCs rather than a live server. Of course you have to test it on a live server, sandbox or otherwise. I would like to see someone pick up where Dietel is leaving off with the teaching of PowerShell. They are not working on any PowerShell books at the moment, which is very sad. If someone wrote a PowerShell book in a similar style and color-coded the code in the book like Dietel used to do in all their books that person would have a real winning combination. In terms of learning the SharePoint Object model, I would like to see someone write a loooong chapter with lots of examples to help people not just learn, but internalize the basic and most common objects used starting of course with "SPFarm" and drilling down. We have spend months learning to program SharePoint 2010 with PowerShell and we did it with very little in terms of learning aids. Your books will be a welcome addition. Sorry for the long post. Keith Caravelli Level 3 Support, Microsoft SharePoint 2007 and 2010 PowerShell Scripting This looks like an exciting undertaking. One of my primary roles at Microsoft is working on the automated scripting of SharePoint 2010 using PowerShell. I work on contract in the group that supports custom portals and farms like MSW and ITWeb and others. PowerShell is proving to be an enormously powerful tool. Our senior developer lead has put a great deal of work into this and has made it possible for us to install a complete SharePoint 2010 installation with maybe 15 minutes of actual hands on interaction with the scripts. I hope you emphasize in your book how to learn and work with the SharePoint object models in a way that is practical for a non-programmer. I think many folks are going to be intimidated by PowerShell because so many books focus on deep programming technique and not enough on the practical quick scripts that comprise most of what is done. You certainly need to know the basic of scripting but many people will get a lot out of working with PowerShell with SharePoint if they just focus on simple quick scripts that get stuff done quickly. And ramp up over time into a deeper skillset involving more extensive scripting using .NET objects and WMI to achive what they want. There is a huge difference between learning basci scripting skills rooted in the fundamentals of programming versus learning development skills which are used for software projects. That is a whole different programming skillset. Learning powershell in my opiion is something that is a skillset which is absolutely mandotory for today’s admins. This is not typically an endeavor that is designed to end up with a page after page of deep code. These are scripts and they speak directly to WMI objects for server work and the SharePoint Object model for SharePoint specific work. Also the Client Object model which is new to 2010 allows us to work on scripts on our local PCs rather than a live server. Of course you have to test it on a live server, sandbox or otherwise. I would like to see someone pick up where Dietel is leaving off with the teaching of PowerShell. They are not working on any PowerShell books at the moment, which is very sad. If someone wrote a PowerShell book in a similar style and color-coded the code in the book like Dietel used to do in all their books that person would have a real winning combination. In terms of learning the SharePoint Object model, I would like to see someone write a loooong chapter with lots of examples to help people not just learn, but internalize the basic and most common objects used starting of course with “SPFarm” and drilling down. We have spend months learning to program SharePoint 2010 with PowerShell and we did it with very little in terms of learning aids. Your books will be a welcome addition. Sorry for the long post.

Keith Caravelli
Level 3 Support, Microsoft SharePoint 2007 and 2010
PowerShell Scripting

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